We're not as bad as the Nazis... Or are we?

I get into healthy and respectful back-and-forth discussion with unbelievers every once in awhile on the subject of objective morality versus subjective morality, and the need for an objective morality giver. The argument they use is, "you don't need God to be a moral person". And that's true, to an extent. Honestly, I see lots of people who don't believe in God who actually act better then some people I know who call themselves Christians.

But the important question is this:  If there is no objective measure for what is good and bad, who can reasonably say ANYTHING is right or wrong?  With nothing to latch on to, who's to say?  Seriously ... if everyone individually decides what is good and bad from their own perspective, we run the risk of ending up with the likes of Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Stalin, and so on.  History has shown this clearly.  My point here is, who's to say what the aforementioned leaders did was wrong? If there is no absolute definition of "wrong" coming from an objective source, what's the big deal?

"Oh, come on!" they say. "Every time time we have this debate, you bring up extremes like the Nazis. Unbelievers are certainly not Nazis!"

And that's true ... sort of.  Those who believe in a subjective measure for good and evil are not necessarily Nazis.  And I'm not judging here.  I am, however, discerning.  

Let's analyze this with a specific example ...

Those who work off the objective definition of good and bad, right and wrong ... stemming from an objective Lawgiver (God, in case you weren't following), know that all human life is precious, since human life is created by God at the point of conception.  By objective understanding of that truth, abortion is wrong - for any reasons.  For those who don't subscribe to an objective source of good and evil ... for those who have a more subjective view ... abortion may be just fine, or at least "it's between the mother and her doctor".  Yeah, that sounds right.  Can't really base that on anything, but that fits with my way of thinking, which is different from yours, which is different from the Nazi's perspective, which is different from ... oy.

So let's compare:

• Removing military casualties created by the Nazi regime, the Nazis are responsible for the deaths of greater than 20 million innocents.  Even during the Nuremburg Trials, most Nazi's believed what they were doing was right and would benefit the greater good.
• America is responsible for the death of almost 60 million innocents.  And that is just America. There are tens of millions more innocents who've been killed across the globe.  And many today still defend that using the narrative of "women's rights" ... as though those rights are more important that the LIFE of a female who is in the womb.

Are EITHER of these historical facts good or bad? Well, if you believe in subjective morality, no. Nothing is inherently wrong when morality is subjective, because who's to say what is wrong without an objective basis to which we can cement ourselves?

And killing of babies in the womb is just the beginning when you embrace a subjective world view on morality.  Overreacting you say?  Well, consider what's next as we wander down this subjective path.

We don't call ourselves Nazis.  But let's be honest - aren't we just as bad?  Worse?